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hey people I gotta take a second to tell

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you about something we do around here

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called the THC Money bomb what I do is

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every five episodes total up the

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donations I've gotten in that period of

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time and half keeps me and the show

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going I take the other half and I gift

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that back to a random listener so far

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we're hitting about 500 each round and I

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couldn't be happier about it

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so consider throwing in 5 or 10 bucks

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it's cheaper than a hand at the

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blackjack table with better odds and a

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scratch-off ticket plus you know half

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supports a show you like and at the very

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least half will go to a like-minded

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person who could probably use a nice

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surprise in these troubled times when

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you make a donation I can see your email

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address and that's how I pick the winner

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but to keep things kosher you can also

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get in the pool by sending your info on

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a postcard to me Greg Karl would p.o box

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3 5 snow paid bonus shows and I want to

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keep it that way on principle but I'm

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not a millionaire at the podcast on the

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side this is it for me and I'm the only

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one I know is trying to help the people

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that's my man so help me help you if you

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want to play along go to the higher side

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Chad STATCOM slash donate and get in the

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game dollars bitcoins it's all good to

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me and that's what we call the THC Money

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here we go our such a tore streak little

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drink smokin a little smoke

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I'm Greg Carl Wood from San Diego and

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this is episode 95 we're all still here

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we have not collapsed yet that's great

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gotta celebrate the little things the

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banker deaths are now up to nine so who

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knows if we're looking at some kind of

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Winston the wolf cleaner guy covering

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the tracks of some Wall Street crimes I

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though you can flat-out tell us about

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the crimes in wall street and everybody

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just kind of says oh that sucks and goes

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about their day so do you really need to

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kill nine people debatable but I don't

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know what's happening anyway we have

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March several from the suggestions on

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the THC Facebook page and the subreddit

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suggestions or even interesting news for

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the higher education segments there

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that's cool too and like I mentioned it

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is episode 95 that means one money bomb

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has ended and another begins this time

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we got eight hundred and ten dollars in

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donations biggest one yet thanks a ton I

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gave half four hundred and five dollars

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to a lucky listener named Chrissy who

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was kind enough to spend a few minutes

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with me for the show we're going to play

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that but first I also gotta say thanks

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to the people at vapor Jeannie they

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opted to send me their new Volta

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vaporizer for free I'm generally not a

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big fan of vaporizers I can never tell

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subtle I usually just end up putting the

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brown vape weed in a bowl anyway but I

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was sick last week I might have

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celebrated my freedom a little too hard

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and vaporizing weed is a lot less harsh

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to use bamboo apparatus and I should say

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company or listener who's trying to get

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sample or something and I'll mention

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for a piece consider going to vapor

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genie just because they were bold enough

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and cool enough to support me and THC

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and we're pretty out there so I respect

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anyone who's willing to do that and now

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a great one I have been interested in

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the Bermuda Triangle for many years and

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great stories about the triangle

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especially in the second half so let's

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here's just a few minutes with the new

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money bomb winner because I'm sure the

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listeners are curious as to where their

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donations go and on the other side we're

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fascinating tales of mystery and a

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measure with Gian quasar hey is this

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the higher side chats how are you hi I'm

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no problem Congrats on winning that's

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pretty awesome thanks for donating you

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know that's a big deal to donate five

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bucks to some show you could listen to

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topics that you like oh all your topics

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interviews thank you and you know

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he's really interesting that's awesome

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pile of money to walk into and since its

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into PhD no way yeah I mean yeah because

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sticking with me on this little show of

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mine I'm glad you like it enough to

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donate and I'm glad you won so thanks

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again thank you

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you too all right people one of the most

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legendary mysteries on the planet is the

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strange enigma known as the Bermuda

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respected authorities on the topic he's

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the first person to have completely

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case and a threat of research spanning

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that span over two centuries his

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tenacity and finding every scrap

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his name is Gian quasar and I'm psyched

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to have him here John how are you doing

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good how are you Oh can't complain man

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I'm really psyched for this you've done

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some great research and from what I

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people about that journey where was for

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me to triangle research before you got

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it's been 25 years now yeah I pulled it

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off of some website but yeah I thought

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it might be dated 25 years a long time

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mystery of adventure and I started a

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very fascinating case and in the 1970s

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deep freeze no one no one talked about

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it anymore and so I was curious about

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all that was said if it was a real

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phenomenon it would still be going on

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in 1990 that dated past 1977 hmm no

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disappearances no discussions nothing so

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if it was true he would still be going

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a database search for me and they could

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every missing aircraft and lo and behold

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that the authors of the original and

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popular books didn't even know about

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archives and then after that time there

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well that had vanished in the late 70s

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to 1980s after no one bothered to

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inquire about the subject and so I

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continued to get reports accident

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reports existed as far back as 1978 and

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case where a pilot is panicking over a

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weird object around some of his aircraft

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them learn well coming in for landing

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and that got me hooked to me I had found

273
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the great adventure the great mystery

274
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that was full of hundreds of mysteries

275
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and an exotic location and I continued

276
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to pursue it yeah man it is a

277
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fascinating case do you have any idea

278
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why interest or research might have died

279
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off in the way it did was it considered

280
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solved in any way well there you know

281
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Charles Berlitz who really popularized

282
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it had a number of mistakes in his

283
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popular books

284
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Larry cush came along and our librarian

285
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from Arizona and he took selected cases

286
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and could say that he solved some of

287
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these cases and the books by Harper &

288
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row build it up with the title Saul's on

289
00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:14,029
it and I suppose it just kind of died

290
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out after that which makes it harder

291
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that had burned burned brightly and

292
00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:21,620
burned out quickly and I have to tell

293
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you it's an expensive it's an expensive

294
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mystery to research really you have to

295
00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:29,990
travel the location just one one

296
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incident the USS Cyclops disappearance

297
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I'm finishing up my book on that case

298
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alone

299
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that cost me $500 just to get the

300
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official documentation there are 2,000

301
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pages in the archives all these reports

302
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cost money

303
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very few are given free by the

304
00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:49,610
government agencies you have to write

305
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back in the days before internet and get

306
00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:55,070
referred all over the place you have to

307
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write International Archives and it's a

308
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time-consuming and expensive hobby I was

309
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years researching this before I even

310
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tried to write a book and all this was

311
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before the internet I I didn't get on

312
00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:12,620
the internet until 1999 with the website

313
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and I had been researching since 1990

314
00:13:20,170 --> 00:13:16,970
it just really is quite engrossing

315
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because it is a very real a mystery it's

316
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not a subjective one as many of the

317
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other popular mysteries are yeah that's

318
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unfortunate that they put such barriers

319
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of entry into just gaining information

320
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just the way archives work back then

321
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before you could get anything online

322
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you had to stumble around and write

323
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letters and then then they would refer

324
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you to another archive and you had asked

325
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and they tell you what they have and you

326
00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:44,660
it just takes years to put together

327
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everything today is much easier yeah

328
00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:50,810
with the internet now at first some

329
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people might think that it's not that

330
00:13:57,940 --> 00:13:55,190
mysterious that crafts have gone missing

331
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I mean the ocean is a big place it's a

332
00:14:01,690 --> 00:13:59,540
treacherous place but we're talking

333
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about hundreds of cases and and no

334
00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:03,320
wreckage found that's an important thing

335
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to state I mean that's the kicker to

336
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this kind of thing you know also the

337
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water there is relatively clear and

338
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:11,780
shallow correct so it is so strange to

339
00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:13,430
have hundreds of craft missing with no

340
00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:16,820
wreckage most yeah the most interesting

341
00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:18,800
cases are over the Bahama banks which

342
00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:23,860
can be a few feet deep 250 feet deep and

343
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:26,930
in which wreckage and such shallow water

344
00:14:32,380 --> 00:14:29,050
will attract the growth of turtle grass

345
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and so from these that's from the air

346
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:35,000
you look down on the banks and they look

347
00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:37,010
like a nice soft aquamarine because

348
00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:38,660
they're so shallow and it's a very sandy

349
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:41,330
bottom but where there's wreckage where

350
00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:42,650
there's rocks you will see this

351
00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:44,870
discoloration marled look of a little

352
00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:47,870
oasis 20 feet underwater but of all the

353
00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:49,430
aircrafts and ships that have this

354
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here and none of them have ever left

355
00:14:57,010 --> 00:14:54,710
I've ever grown I've ever left a mark

356
00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,020
where turtle grass raising grows and the

357
00:15:01,090 --> 00:14:59,839
locals are very familiar with with the

358
00:15:03,730 --> 00:15:01,100
bottoms in the way it is you know when

359
00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:03,740
there's something like this happens the

360
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,270
divers will go out because they seem a

361
00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:06,800
wreck and they assume conch will be

362
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growing there and it's been good for

363
00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:11,600
fishing but with all those that have

364
00:15:16,090 --> 00:15:13,520
vanished never have served in any sign

365
00:15:18,220 --> 00:15:16,100
that they crashed Wow

366
00:15:20,139 --> 00:15:18,230
that's just I've loved this mystery

367
00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:20,149
since I was a kid you know and you kind

368
00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:22,640
of alluded to the erroneous conclusions

369
00:15:26,170 --> 00:15:24,920
made by some other researchers what are

370
00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:26,180
some of those the one the biggest one

371
00:15:31,510 --> 00:15:29,450
I've heard about is the idea that the

372
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ocean releases some type of methane gas

373
00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:33,230
that affects vessels in the area it

374
00:15:36,430 --> 00:15:34,850
sounds pretty far-fetched for an

375
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,440
explanation sounds like the swamp gas

376
00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:38,480
type explanation what do you think about

377
00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:40,610
that one well you know some of the

378
00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:44,480
exposed rational explanations are just

379
00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:47,600
as absurd as so the far-out ones but the

380
00:15:52,180 --> 00:15:50,300
the largest beds of methane are off the

381
00:15:55,660 --> 00:15:52,190
Carolinas which technically are in the

382
00:15:58,630 --> 00:15:55,670
Triangle by one shape or another but

383
00:15:59,890 --> 00:15:58,640
it's the gas well the methane would have

384
00:16:02,440 --> 00:15:59,900
to go through thousands of feet of

385
00:16:04,210 --> 00:16:02,450
sediment thousands of feet of ocean and

386
00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:04,220
here up right under a ship and it's

387
00:16:10,329 --> 00:16:07,070
passing over so what are the mathematic

388
00:16:13,210 --> 00:16:10,339
probabilities right and it might happen

389
00:16:15,850 --> 00:16:13,220
with one it's perfectly possible there

390
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,860
was a rig that drilled into a methane

391
00:16:20,170 --> 00:16:17,600
bed by accident and it sank and there

392
00:16:22,090 --> 00:16:20,180
were helicopters circling overhead

393
00:16:24,430 --> 00:16:22,100
filming this for the news and they were

394
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:24,440
unaffected so even if you can get at

395
00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:28,160
least one ship that would sink suddenly

396
00:16:32,350 --> 00:16:30,709
from methane it's not going to affect

397
00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,360
all the aircraft and some of the

398
00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:33,680
aircraft disappearances are far more

399
00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:36,230
interesting right in the terms of

400
00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:39,800
unexplained now before we get into the

401
00:16:44,890 --> 00:16:43,040
only hijacked an aircraft right you know

402
00:16:47,290 --> 00:16:44,900
you well you know piracy is always the

403
00:16:48,970 --> 00:16:47,300
possibility for small vessels but how

404
00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:48,980
how do you stop an aircraft Midway in

405
00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:51,740
flight and pirate it yeah that's an

406
00:16:55,510 --> 00:16:53,750
interesting question and I want to get

407
00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:55,520
into some of the cases but before we do

408
00:17:00,760 --> 00:16:58,430
the one other explanation I hear people

409
00:17:02,950 --> 00:17:00,770
say when they try to make the Bermuda

410
00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:02,960
Triangle seem less mysterious

411
00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:04,550
that they say if you do the math on

412
00:17:08,140 --> 00:17:06,470
crashes and disappearances around the

413
00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:08,150
world that their Bermuda Triangle really

414
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:10,370
isn't that special of an area but if

415
00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:11,120
incorrect

416
00:17:15,550 --> 00:17:12,620
yeah you could dispute that claim pretty

417
00:17:17,290 --> 00:17:15,560
easily I would assume right I did in my

418
00:17:18,699 --> 00:17:17,300
book in the first chapter I think it was

419
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:18,709
that I compared all the Coast Guard

420
00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:21,290
districts for example where the

421
00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:22,670
triangles in the 7th Coast Guard

422
00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:25,790
district I kept in the first Coast Guard

423
00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:27,110
district would be off in England I

424
00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:30,020
compared the number of calls for

425
00:17:36,010 --> 00:17:32,230
assistance which are very close

426
00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:36,020
19500 opposed to 10,200 from New England

427
00:17:41,230 --> 00:17:38,870
to compared to the 7th Coast Guard

428
00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:41,240
district but over the time I study at

429
00:17:46,810 --> 00:17:43,270
the whole decade of the 1990s four

430
00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:46,820
aircraft vanished in foul-weather

431
00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:49,430
of New England compared to 20 that

432
00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:50,510
vanished in the Triangle and

433
00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:53,750
fair-weather hmm and so there's the

434
00:17:58,210 --> 00:17:55,430
difference just in Coast Guard districts

435
00:18:02,380 --> 00:17:58,220
people still pull out the old line that

436
00:18:04,420 --> 00:18:02,390
when Lloyd did a study in 1975 where

437
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:04,430
Lloyd's doesn't even insure the smaller

438
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:06,770
stuff so their statistics wouldn't

439
00:18:11,410 --> 00:18:09,200
matter and all the Coast Guard

440
00:18:13,150 --> 00:18:11,420
statistics show that the calls for

441
00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:13,160
assistance and the travel and traffic

442
00:18:19,470 --> 00:18:16,420
are very similar off all the East Coast

443
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:19,480
and yet the triangle stands out 20 times

444
00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:21,770
for disappearances and we're not talking

445
00:18:26,110 --> 00:18:23,990
about wrecks we're not talking about a

446
00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:26,120
boat Nick who's torched his boat with

447
00:18:31,690 --> 00:18:30,110
his barbecue which has happened we're

448
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:31,700
not talking about you know someone who

449
00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:33,290
Rams another one or whatever we're

450
00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:35,750
talking about total disappearance not

451
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:36,290
wreck

452
00:18:40,930 --> 00:18:38,690
yeah that's the most mysterious part of

453
00:18:42,670 --> 00:18:40,940
all and as far as the cases are

454
00:18:44,770 --> 00:18:42,680
concerned probably the most famous that

455
00:18:46,510 --> 00:18:44,780
I know about is flight 19 and I know

456
00:18:48,690 --> 00:18:46,520
you've written a book specifically about

457
00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:48,700
the case called they flew into oblivion

458
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,020
can you tell us about that case and the

459
00:18:55,030 --> 00:18:53,840
conclusions you've come to ironically I

460
00:18:57,910 --> 00:18:55,040
don't believe it disappeared in the

461
00:19:00,100 --> 00:18:57,920
Triangle right I really can't say all

462
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:00,110
that caused them to be confused over the

463
00:19:05,710 --> 00:19:03,290
Bahamas so the flight leaders compass

464
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,720
certainly malfunctioned he said so why

465
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,840
all of the pilots didn't say something

466
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:10,160
there were five pilots why they didn't

467
00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:12,770
say we're on course and it's only your

468
00:19:16,220 --> 00:19:15,320
compasses why they didn't mark where the

469
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,230
Sun was

470
00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:18,720
they did what they did I can't explain

471
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:20,340
everything but ultimately I do not

472
00:19:24,110 --> 00:19:22,710
believe that the flight disappeared in

473
00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:24,120
the Triangle but in fact disappeared

474
00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:25,830
over southern Georgia yeah and the

475
00:19:31,220 --> 00:19:28,740
swamplands you know in a federal refuge

476
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:31,230
that's huge it's 660 square miles I

477
00:19:37,460 --> 00:19:34,080
believe that is that's been true and we

478
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:37,470
very popular because I was objective

479
00:19:41,390 --> 00:19:39,330
enough to remove it from the triangles I

480
00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:41,400
mean it technically will always be the

481
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:42,990
cornerstone of the triangle that's what

482
00:19:46,940 --> 00:19:44,330
directed everybody's attention out there

483
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:46,950
well ultimately I do believe although it

484
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:49,650
got lost there that it did disappear for

485
00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:52,770
a number of reasons including search and

486
00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:55,860
rescue follow-up and just some very hard

487
00:19:58,340 --> 00:19:58,020
things to explain about what happened

488
00:20:01,100 --> 00:19:58,350
that night

489
00:20:04,340 --> 00:20:01,110
in 1945 and the reason I think the case

490
00:20:06,590 --> 00:20:04,350
is so popular is because like five

491
00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:06,600
planes went missing but I mean I guess

492
00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:07,830
you come to this conclusion because

493
00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:10,350
there were some radar reports in the

494
00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:13,020
Georgia area of five planes that were

495
00:20:19,780 --> 00:20:16,140
unaccounted for pier transport command

496
00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:19,790
both at Brunswick and Jacksonville

497
00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:22,110
reported five and identified aircraft

498
00:20:26,919 --> 00:20:24,750
had a particular heading and so then

499
00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:26,929
they asked search-and-rescue you know

500
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:29,340
how can this be them search and rescue

501
00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:30,210
telling them that they should have been

502
00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:33,000
down and out of gas by 8:00 p.m. but

503
00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:34,620
these radar reports are coming in at

504
00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:37,950
8:50 well you're going over all that the

505
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:41,190
Navy compiled in fact those those

506
00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:43,980
aircraft had at least an extra hour of

507
00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:45,780
fuel on board there were so many snafus

508
00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:48,120
coming out of Fort Lauderdale that there

509
00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:50,100
was a lot of acrimony between officers

510
00:20:54,140 --> 00:20:52,710
over this and when I first began I

511
00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:54,150
researched some of them were still alive

512
00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:56,760
and I just did not want to get in

513
00:21:01,789 --> 00:20:58,620
between some of it because they could

514
00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:01,799
get very adamant a two of them refused

515
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:02,940
to even be in the same room with each

516
00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:06,240
other and the one had used dereliction

517
00:21:09,289 --> 00:21:07,830
of duty against another one which is a

518
00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:09,299
very serious thing to say to a military

519
00:21:14,810 --> 00:21:12,780
man so it's it's quite a controversy why

520
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:14,820
there was such an erroneous gas estimate

521
00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:18,120
why Fort Lauderdale didn't even know the

522
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:19,620
actual time these planes were supposed

523
00:21:23,690 --> 00:21:21,770
to land they were off by an hour

524
00:21:27,230 --> 00:21:23,700
interesting search and rescue was

525
00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:27,240
delayed yeah there's just so many snafus

526
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:30,390
that when those radar reports came in

527
00:21:32,779 --> 00:21:31,559
because it should they were just kind of

528
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:32,789
dismissed because they thought they

529
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:35,070
should have ditched by that time and

530
00:21:38,419 --> 00:21:37,140
when the board of inquiry actually

531
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:38,429
challenged their search and rescue

532
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,250
officer pathos radar reports that how

533
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:44,159
did you evaluate those as negative yeah

534
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:48,570
he replied they never landed interesting

535
00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:50,850
and that was his only excuse why those

536
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:52,230
could not have been accurate reports

537
00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:53,970
because they logically should have

538
00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:55,740
landed that they tone or Jacksonville or

539
00:22:00,139 --> 00:21:57,720
something right no other no other

540
00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:00,149
thought entered his mind and certainly

541
00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:01,860
higher-ups saw the problems I mean there

542
00:22:06,139 --> 00:22:04,590
was the overall admiral FD wagner said

543
00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:06,149
there was obviously a lot of problems in

544
00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:09,000
the search-and-rescue now another

545
00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:10,740
interesting thread to the Romina

546
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,830
triangles and a lot of UFO investigators

547
00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:16,080
have claimed that it's a UFO hotspot and

548
00:22:20,779 --> 00:22:18,809
I know there's a couple of cases I don't

549
00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:20,789
know how credible they are where people

550
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:24,600
talk about being involved with seeing

551
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:27,330
some type of strange UFO or flying craft

552
00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:29,010
have you investigated any of those cases

553
00:22:32,029 --> 00:22:31,500
that seem credible but there's only that

554
00:22:35,779 --> 00:22:32,039
one

555
00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:35,789
technically in 1980 I have the Mayday on

556
00:22:41,269 --> 00:22:39,059
my website so people can listen to it

557
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:41,279
the pilot is panicking he's calling than

558
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,250
one Airport and he is talking about a

559
00:22:50,529 --> 00:22:45,840
weird object interfering with his craft

560
00:22:52,909 --> 00:22:50,539
he's off the coast of San Juan near Oh

561
00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:52,919
cabo rojo is that it's where there was

562
00:22:58,639 --> 00:22:55,470
an awful lot of Olympus every juntas

563
00:23:02,750 --> 00:22:58,649
flat back in the 70s this was the area

564
00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:02,760
off Puerto Rico where that began and so

565
00:23:10,009 --> 00:23:06,350
in 1980 this guy's flying a plane with

566
00:23:11,659 --> 00:23:10,019
his his friend in the passenger seat and

567
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:11,669
thirty five miles off the coast he's

568
00:23:17,659 --> 00:23:14,730
panicking over the weird object and he

569
00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:17,669
keeps avoiding it and he's trying to

570
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:20,909
avoid it and the Iberia flight is

571
00:23:25,269 --> 00:23:23,279
relaying San Juans instructions and

572
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:25,279
trying to explain you know trying to get

573
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,010
ascertain what is the problem and the

574
00:23:34,669 --> 00:23:31,679
aircraft is actually on Atlantic weapons

575
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:34,679
radar at the time and around 803 p.m. it

576
00:23:42,019 --> 00:23:39,440
simply vanished Wow there was no more

577
00:23:43,570 --> 00:23:42,029
communication an object reappeared on

578
00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:43,580
the radar scope

579
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:45,380
Austin's was supposed to be a plane but

580
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:48,050
it was tracking in a different direction

581
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,270
it didn't answer any calls didn't send

582
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:53,600
any calls and then it vanished - Wow and

583
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:56,720
so there simply was no evidence of what

584
00:24:02,110 --> 00:23:58,850
happened and the plane was owned by an

585
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:02,120
arrow police officer of Puerto Rico his

586
00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:06,200
son was the passenger and his son's

587
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:09,790
friend was the pilot so the father spent

588
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:11,750
hours and hours in his own helicopter

589
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,930
trying to find out what happened and in

590
00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:16,400
the end according to the sister they had

591
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:19,400
no they had no answer except you know

592
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:21,370
the only connection was the weird object

593
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:23,930
did he describe the object at all with

594
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:26,510
any characteristic so were know every

595
00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:28,850
weird object no just you can listen to

596
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:31,580
the Mayday on my website it'll take

597
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:33,110
several lessons to understand both his

598
00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:36,050
accent and try and get it clearly but he

599
00:24:41,710 --> 00:24:38,420
just calls it a weird object in the

600
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:41,720
report in the whole National

601
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:43,250
Transportation Safety Board report the

602
00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:46,610
father well-known early aircraft does

603
00:24:52,030 --> 00:24:50,060
state about his own research and he

604
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,040
called it the four parts in Spanish so

605
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:54,320
he called it no jet so Luminoso so he

606
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:55,610
called it a glowing object in the

607
00:25:00,400 --> 00:24:57,760
reports where he got that I don't know

608
00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:00,410
because it's only called a weird object

609
00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:02,600
by the pilot who was Jose Maldonado

610
00:25:08,830 --> 00:25:07,100
Torres interesting so now when it comes

611
00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:08,840
to these cases of people who've lived to

612
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:10,820
tell the tales of the triangle what are

613
00:25:15,130 --> 00:25:12,650
some of the major themes of strangeness

614
00:25:16,990 --> 00:25:15,140
they've encountered idiots what is the

615
00:25:19,330 --> 00:25:17,000
most interesting thing that people I

616
00:25:20,890 --> 00:25:19,340
think should accept is true but they

617
00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:20,900
don't have to put any kind of paranormal

618
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:23,630
explanation on it but this is the

619
00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:26,570
correct behold

620
00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:28,040
enigma the triangle and that's the

621
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:31,100
electronic fog right and this is

622
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:32,480
something that's a real even Charles

623
00:25:38,830 --> 00:25:35,510
Lindbergh wrote about it finally in 1976

624
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:38,840
and his autobiography of values he wrote

625
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:43,130
about his flight from Havana and in

626
00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:45,650
spirit of st. Louie and he believed he

627
00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:49,580
passed into a grey mist fog bank his

628
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:51,860
ground-induction gear all this early

629
00:25:57,010 --> 00:25:53,810
navigation gear and his compass went

630
00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:57,020
wacky and he continued to fly along he

631
00:26:00,910 --> 00:25:57,710
could look

632
00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:00,920
and see the stars and he tried to get

633
00:26:06,430 --> 00:26:03,980
above the fog but he couldn't and he

634
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:06,440
finally came out of this and he was 300

635
00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:09,230
miles off course and amazingly that is

636
00:26:13,930 --> 00:26:11,630
what so many others have said Bruce

637
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:13,940
Gernon is one of them he coined the term

638
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:15,650
electronic fog and he encountered it

639
00:26:21,610 --> 00:26:18,710
twice and he said you know it looks like

640
00:26:24,010 --> 00:26:21,620
a fog bank when you're in it but that's

641
00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:24,020
not the case it travels with you you are

642
00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:26,540
not traveling through it then you can

643
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:29,480
look up and see the sky you can look

644
00:26:34,780 --> 00:26:32,570
straight down and see the ocean and it's

645
00:26:37,210 --> 00:26:34,790
really like you're in a doughnut weird

646
00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:37,220
it's all around you but right

647
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,740
immediately you can look down and see so

648
00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:41,120
there it's kind of like a vortex and

649
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:42,830
that's basically what Lindbergh was

650
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:44,510
describing without knowing it he kept

651
00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:47,450
trying to get on top of this and Bruce

652
00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:49,790
said that is the big mistake to make

653
00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:52,190
that you are traveling through it it is

654
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,620
traveling with you right it's like maybe

655
00:26:58,450 --> 00:26:56,480
if it's electromagnetic maybe it's

656
00:27:00,760 --> 00:26:58,460
attracted to the metal of the craft and

657
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:00,770
just well it should not be because

658
00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:03,890
aircraft have leech lines are supposed

659
00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:07,880
to dispel static electricity boats and

660
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:10,760
links they're supposed to discharge that

661
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:11,930
so this is something it's

662
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:13,870
electromagnetic but it's not something

663
00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:16,130
you're familiar with because it should

664
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:17,920
not be able to hold on to an aircraft

665
00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:21,200
right sonic fog exists it's an aircraft

666
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:24,200
goes at a certain speed it can condense

667
00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:25,520
the atmosphere around it and you've seen

668
00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:28,460
these famous photos Boeing takes of

669
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:30,470
experimental jets and there's this big

670
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:33,110
powder puff cotton ball around the

671
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:35,930
aircraft mm-hmm well that sonic fog

672
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:38,570
that's well known but it just puffs away

673
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:40,010
behind the aircraft it doesn't hold on

674
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:43,970
to it the electronic fog does hold on to

675
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:48,350
the aircraft or the boat now and so it's

676
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:51,080
not it's not supernatural but I would

677
00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:53,690
suggest since the Bermuda Triangle is so

678
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:54,830
intimately connected with

679
00:28:00,460 --> 00:27:58,640
electromagnetic aberrations pilots and

680
00:28:04,530 --> 00:28:00,470
ship masters speaking about twirling

681
00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:04,540
compasses and odd fogs and lights and

682
00:28:09,610 --> 00:28:07,460
strange things that we're talking about

683
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:09,620
an electromagnetic phenomenon out there

684
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:11,870
that's rather unique to that area

685
00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:14,490
that's fascinating stuff now there's

686
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:16,200
another interesting case that I had

687
00:28:23,060 --> 00:28:19,050
heard because the disappearance of craft

688
00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:23,070
is just what's so I brow raising to me

689
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:24,420
but there's a famous case of a guy who

690
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:26,250
is towing a barge through the triangle

691
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:28,050
are you familiar with that case at all

692
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,780
mmm looking at captain Don Henry can you

693
00:28:33,530 --> 00:28:31,440
tell us about that

694
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:33,540
that's an incident of the electronic

695
00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:39,810
prog probably the good news his tugboat

696
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,630
was telling the barge from I think San

697
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Juan to Miami and over the tongue of the

698
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:50,130
ocean this unusual fog first of all he

699
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:52,500
was in the near the bridge and the

700
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:53,910
people on the bridge were panicking that

701
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:56,970
compass was twirling he went up there

702
00:29:00,770 --> 00:28:58,770
trying to figure out what happened and

703
00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:00,780
he looked behind he says instinct

704
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:03,240
whenever you're hauling anything and so

705
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:04,440
he looked behind and he couldn't see his

706
00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:06,510
barge it was surrounded in this fog that

707
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:11,190
just hung around it and it was they

708
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:13,560
could go back and pull on the the rope

709
00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:15,810
that held the barge and they couldn't

710
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:17,940
see it it was there but they couldn't

711
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:21,870
see it because just just local tough it

712
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:23,490
wasn't like this big cotton ball was

713
00:29:28,550 --> 00:29:26,010
around the barge mm-hmm and eventually

714
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:28,560
when that disappeared all the power came

715
00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:31,860
back on the boat the batteries that he

716
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:33,870
was carrying were drained but the

717
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:37,080
compass was now working again and so

718
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:38,880
that's quite a famous case one of the

719
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:41,150
best known ones for the electronic fog

720
00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:44,010
occurring on surface level and was the

721
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:46,200
barge still there this fog cleared yes

722
00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:47,970
yes when it was still there they went

723
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:49,740
back and checked it and he said the

724
00:29:56,270 --> 00:29:51,300
water it was warmer than it should have

725
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:56,280
been Wow now I've heard of some of the

726
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:00,360
more strange cases involving time slips

727
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:02,760
we're a strange amount of time seems to

728
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:04,890
go by and that they can't explain that

729
00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:06,690
is there any credibility to those type

730
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:11,280
of stories they appear implicitly in a

731
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:14,910
couple of reports one Civil Air Patrol

732
00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:19,130
student took off without permission from

733
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,950
st. Thomas he didn't give his

734
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:24,640
destination but

735
00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:26,650
five six hours later he's in a twin

736
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:28,660
aircraft a Beechcraft so five or six

737
00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:30,970
hours later they finally pick him up and

738
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:33,550
he's off Miami this is a 1980-81

739
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:37,090
incident he says that he's lost in fog

740
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:39,630
at 150 feet outside he says it's clouds

741
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:41,890
and her in 50 feet he's gonna have to

742
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:45,310
ditch because he's gotta gasps hmm Miami

743
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:46,630
didn't understand because the weather

744
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:49,090
was perfect off Miami but Miami also

745
00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:50,770
didn't hear him David this was relayed

746
00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:53,860
to Miami from two Jumbo's off of Bermuda

747
00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:55,740
that picked him up a thousand miles away

748
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,940
so it was ridden off they went out and

749
00:31:02,490 --> 00:30:59,440
looked they couldn't find him they

750
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:02,500
thought this was a pilot who was not

751
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:05,650
qualified and he simply ditched and

752
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:07,410
didn't survive and there was no trace

753
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:11,200
well lo and behold 11 hours later Caicos

754
00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:13,810
Islands hour which is an island about

755
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:15,700
midway between San Juan Puerto Rico and

756
00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:17,950
Miami so about 6-iron miles away from

757
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:19,420
Miami in the Bahamas

758
00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:21,160
gets a call from a young man's voice

759
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:23,230
they say they got the call number of the

760
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:24,460
registration number of the plane quite

761
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,190
accurately he said he was 10 this was 11

762
00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:30,880
hours later now and they said he said he

763
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:32,830
was 10 miles out because they clear him

764
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:36,040
for coming in for landing and they said

765
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:37,570
yes they had no idea that aircraft was

766
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:38,640
being looked for

767
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:41,710
and so they clear him and he still

768
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,500
doesn't come in there's no trace there

769
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:46,480
you cannot fly in and fly out of

770
00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:48,070
anywhere in the Bahamas and refuel about

771
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,740
being clocked in and so how was he still

772
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:53,200
in the flight 11 hours later at 600

773
00:31:58,590 --> 00:31:57,130
miles away and after fuel starvation so

774
00:32:01,020 --> 00:31:58,600
that's one of the confusing cases

775
00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:01,030
there's other ones in which an SOS was

776
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:03,880
picked up many hours after the aircraft

777
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:06,150
had to be down it's a bit of a

778
00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:08,890
mysterious case Bruce Gernon has

779
00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:10,180
mentioned the time lapse when he

780
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:11,920
countered the electronic fog that there

781
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:13,900
was he was thirty minutes ahead of

782
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:16,600
schedule and he should not have been and

783
00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:18,040
he could not account for it the fuel had

784
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:21,100
not been consumed either he checked so

785
00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:24,790
that would be his 1970 incident so you

786
00:32:31,530 --> 00:32:27,550
get some they're very vague yeah but

787
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:31,540
there there are allusions to it there

788
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:33,520
are allusions to the electronic fog and

789
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:36,310
also at the time and uh let me get weird

790
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:37,400
on you for a minute when I was

791
00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:39,170
kid I heard this story that really

792
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:41,240
struck out to me I believe it was on

793
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:44,810
coast to coast and I can't find any

794
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:46,310
information on it when I was trying to

795
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:47,570
prepare for the show I was looking for

796
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:49,130
it but as I remember it

797
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:51,410
there was a plane flying around looking

798
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:53,450
for this particular Airport below and

799
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:55,070
they have radio communication on the

800
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:56,810
ground and they're saying to this this

801
00:33:01,060 --> 00:32:59,120
plane that they're seeing it with no

802
00:33:03,130 --> 00:33:01,070
problem but the pilot is saying that he

803
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:03,140
sees nothing down below but trees and

804
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:05,930
overgrowth and the speculation was that

805
00:33:09,610 --> 00:33:07,670
this pilot was looking through some type

806
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:09,620
of portal and was seeing the earth

807
00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:11,540
possibly at a different time

808
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:13,580
maybe when before the airport was built

809
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:15,470
are you familiar with a case like that

810
00:33:17,740 --> 00:33:17,210
or was I just listening to a crazy

811
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:17,750
person

812
00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:21,170
no that was June 1969 Carolyn Cascio

813
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:24,260
with her boyfriend Robert rose and they

814
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:25,970
were flying over grand Turks and the

815
00:33:31,450 --> 00:33:29,290
Cessna 172 the thing is I have the brief

816
00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:31,460
to that accident but the accident

817
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:33,260
reports have been lost since that time

818
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,930
so I've never seen the details to try

819
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:38,000
and explain all of that but that to what

820
00:33:44,530 --> 00:33:40,670
you've recounted I think some of it's

821
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:44,540
probably legendary right at the tourists

822
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:47,450
were annoyed by the aircraft circling

823
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:50,270
overhead and then the aircraft took off

824
00:33:56,590 --> 00:33:54,050
into the sea and but Carolyn Coski I've

825
00:33:59,260 --> 00:33:56,600
been telling the radar the radio control

826
00:34:00,790 --> 00:33:59,270
that there's nothing down there may have

827
00:34:05,050 --> 00:34:00,800
been two different aircrafts I don't

828
00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:05,060
know if it was the electronic fog and

829
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,030
she simply couldn't see mm-hmm and it

830
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:10,159
didn't parenting you know didn't make

831
00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:12,470
any impression on those on the ground

832
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:14,120
I don't know how visible the electronic

833
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,750
fog can be from whatever angle mm-hmm

834
00:34:20,590 --> 00:34:19,280
so maybe that's it but I would have to

835
00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:20,600
find the report until I get really

836
00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:22,940
detailed all right there is a case that

837
00:34:31,090 --> 00:34:27,470
I do have the report to in 2001 in which

838
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:31,100
an aircraft was playing tag for training

839
00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:33,950
purposes with a Coast Guard interceptor

840
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:34,550
for drugs

841
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:38,210
interception this was off marathon key

842
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:41,690
in the in the Florida Keys the sealing

843
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:44,300
and invisibility was 12 miles and

844
00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:46,690
everything was fine and the Coast Guard

845
00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:49,070
aircraft reports flying marathon

846
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:51,669
reporting weather reporting station

847
00:35:00,329 --> 00:34:57,250
firms but the pilot well I want to say

848
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:00,339
the name is Chuck can't remember it but

849
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:04,450
he suddenly reports himself IMC which is

850
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:06,190
instrument meteorological conditions

851
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:09,520
which means he's in meteorological

852
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:10,780
conditions and yet it was clear to

853
00:35:18,329 --> 00:35:15,760
everybody else he apparently does the

854
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:18,339
Deadman spiral he loses complete control

855
00:35:25,859 --> 00:35:22,960
of his horizon and he disappears in a

856
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:25,869
search a couple days later finally finds

857
00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:28,510
a couple pieces of the aircraft so that

858
00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:30,220
he might have gotten spatially

859
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:33,460
disoriented and crashed and that's a

860
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,900
very implicit allusion to the electronic

861
00:35:41,609 --> 00:35:40,000
fogs and that he was in perfectly clear

862
00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:41,619
conditions and so does everybody else

863
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:44,950
but suddenly he alone as I am see those

864
00:35:51,059 --> 00:35:46,210
are basically his last words and then

865
00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:51,069
he's gone Wow now I guess in more modern

866
00:35:54,359 --> 00:35:52,780
times you said this was from 2001 I

867
00:35:57,539 --> 00:35:54,369
would assume that in more modern times

868
00:36:00,420 --> 00:35:57,549
there would be better technology for

869
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:00,430
tracking these crafts or transponders or

870
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:02,049
the black box I mean up for the black

871
00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:03,609
box of course you've got to find the

872
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:07,780
plane but has a small little puddle

873
00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:10,390
jumper aircraft oh gosh esna I don't

874
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:13,540
think we'd have a black box but yeah

875
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:15,930
you'd have to find the aircraft but will

876
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:20,470
120 aircraft I've checked have carried

877
00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:25,359
elts which is the emergency locator

878
00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:29,020
transmitter this is the this is the

879
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:31,150
little electronic automatic alarm that

880
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:32,530
when the aircraft impacts it will

881
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:36,010
jettison the pod alarm mm-hmm and this

882
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:38,049
signal electronic signal will be picked

883
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:41,170
up by base stations by passing aircraft

884
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:46,510
and even by satellites and it can float

885
00:36:48,859 --> 00:36:47,710
at sea of course that's what it's

886
00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:48,869
designed for

887
00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:51,220
and it's the whole purpose of such an

888
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:52,900
invention is to mark the point where

889
00:36:58,859 --> 00:36:54,670
there was an impact so a rescuers could

890
00:37:01,380 --> 00:36:58,869
go there quickly 120 craft I know by my

891
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:01,390
last count have carried these are not

892
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:02,530
one of them that's ever left an

893
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:04,089
automatic alarm signal indicating they

894
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,640
impacted

895
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:08,079
interesting so the mystery of the

896
00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:09,700
triangle still defies our modern

897
00:37:16,219 --> 00:37:13,630
technology even now then now when you

898
00:37:18,809 --> 00:37:16,229
look at the radio communication between

899
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:18,819
crafts that are in the air or vessels

900
00:37:25,219 --> 00:37:21,720
that are on the sea and their

901
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:25,229
counterparts on land is there any more

902
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,849
information we can extrapolate to try to

903
00:37:36,089 --> 00:37:29,440
come to a conclusion based on what they

904
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,099
say I would I would say not because the

905
00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:37,839
disappearance whatever is causing them

906
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:41,229
seems to be very sudden and for those

907
00:37:44,489 --> 00:37:42,700
that disappear and radar we know that

908
00:37:45,979 --> 00:37:44,499
because one sweep of the radar there

909
00:37:49,859 --> 00:37:45,989
there the other sweep they're gone that

910
00:37:51,059 --> 00:37:49,869
applies even to a dc-3 in and there was

911
00:37:51,989 --> 00:37:51,069
no wreckage when they went out and

912
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:51,999
looked and spawned they knew exactly

913
00:37:58,799 --> 00:37:54,910
where it disappeared from the radar so

914
00:38:00,180 --> 00:37:58,809
whatever happens is very sudden and I

915
00:38:02,219 --> 00:38:00,190
don't think there's really except in a

916
00:38:05,489 --> 00:38:02,229
very couple of cases like Torres

917
00:38:08,130 --> 00:38:05,499
panicking off Cuba off of Porto Rico

918
00:38:09,269 --> 00:38:08,140
rather there's really no chance for them

919
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,279
to say anything they're either trying to

920
00:38:11,969 --> 00:38:10,960
control the aircraft or understand

921
00:38:16,589 --> 00:38:11,979
what's happening or the radios not

922
00:38:20,059 --> 00:38:16,599
working or simply they are gone one

923
00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:20,069
twin-engine charter Beechcraft left

924
00:38:25,049 --> 00:38:23,109
Miami or Fort Lauderdale headed for

925
00:38:28,729 --> 00:38:25,059
Bimini which is only about 56 miles away

926
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:28,739
off the coast it slowed to a dangerously

927
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:31,690
low airspeed of like 90 miles an hour

928
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:35,650
and six people on board and then it went

929
00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:37,450
into a dive and they're not answering

930
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:39,150
any calls they're not sending anything

931
00:38:43,499 --> 00:38:41,529
just appeared off radar then II went out

932
00:38:46,859 --> 00:38:43,509
there looking and they course didn't

933
00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:46,869
find a trace but two witnesses quite a

934
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:50,140
distance away off Bimini reported seeing

935
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,049
an aircraft plunge into the ocean off

936
00:38:57,390 --> 00:38:55,839
Bimini well they had the right spot

937
00:38:58,410 --> 00:38:57,400
because they thought and so the Coast

938
00:39:00,539 --> 00:38:58,420
Guard went out there and looked it's

939
00:39:02,370 --> 00:39:00,549
only 18 feet of water and yet there's

940
00:39:03,870 --> 00:39:02,380
still nothing there so I don't know if

941
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:03,880
they were seeing a mirage of the actual

942
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:06,900
aircraft plunging into the Gulf Stream

943
00:39:14,209 --> 00:39:11,380
or what but even though it was not

944
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:14,219
completely sudden radar controllers were

945
00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:16,890
amazed at why this aircraft was suddenly

946
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,260
heard in some odd miles 290

947
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:22,000
before it plunged still there was no

948
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:23,410
communication from anybody in the

949
00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:24,569
aircraft

950
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:27,700
creepy stuff now let's talk about some

951
00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:29,890
of the more far-out explanations I mean

952
00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:31,390
one of my favorite when I was younger

953
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:33,700
was the idea that Atlantis has been

954
00:39:37,859 --> 00:39:35,740
there and sunk into the sea and that

955
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:37,869
they had a lot of electromagnetic

956
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:39,849
technology that was still active and

957
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:42,280
effects crafts in the area I think some

958
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:44,050
of that came from Edgar Cayce if I'm not

959
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:49,690
mistaken yes it did Charles Berlitz and

960
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:51,490
J Manson Valentine made that very

961
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:53,980
popular well you know if you accept that

962
00:39:58,859 --> 00:39:56,260
the triangle is really the adventure

963
00:40:01,140 --> 00:39:58,869
area you have to accept the triangles

964
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:01,150
two things one it's the enigma of the

965
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:03,940
triangle which is that more aircraft and

966
00:40:08,579 --> 00:40:05,740
ships vanish in fair weather without any

967
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:08,589
known cause number two that it is an

968
00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:10,420
actual geographic area obviously between

969
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:13,990
Bermuda southern Florida Puerto Rico so

970
00:40:19,339 --> 00:40:15,700
whatever is going on in there whether

971
00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:19,349
it's high sales high seas high jinks or

972
00:40:25,799 --> 00:40:22,030
piracy their disappearance or voodoo

973
00:40:28,849 --> 00:40:25,809
rituals or strange ruins on the bottom

974
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:28,859
it is part of the Bermuda Triangle

975
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:32,079
enigma yeah so you can talk about

976
00:40:38,849 --> 00:40:35,290
Atlantis and there are unusual man-made

977
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:38,859
ruins but there's no there's no evidence

978
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:42,010
that Edgar Cayce is Atlantis but Wally

979
00:40:49,799 --> 00:40:47,290
stone twice Don it's cold is pulsing off

980
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:49,809
of natural energy in the rock is the

981
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:55,510
theory and sending a ship or plane into

982
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,010
another dimension or disintegrating it

983
00:41:01,920 --> 00:40:59,680
out right yeah as far as ruins are

984
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:01,930
concerned I mean Bimini Road is located

985
00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:03,730
there which is like some underground or

986
00:41:08,190 --> 00:41:06,520
not underground but undersea ancient

987
00:41:11,549 --> 00:41:08,200
ruins they found can you tell us about

988
00:41:13,859 --> 00:41:11,559
that at all oh it's very well known it's

989
00:41:17,579 --> 00:41:13,869
an inverted J there's other segments

990
00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:17,589
running parallel to it it's in Oh 20

991
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:20,200
feet of water at least lost family it's

992
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,990
quite beautiful I maps the whole thing

993
00:41:26,099 --> 00:41:24,160
but it was trunk I think so much for my

994
00:41:28,010 --> 00:41:26,109
book you really can't appreciate it but

995
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,020
on my website somewhere you can actually

996
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:30,640
click onto it and see all the stones and

997
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:32,430
how its arranged

998
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:36,210
it looks like a inca park where the inca

999
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,210
stonework polygonal stones like sexy

1000
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:42,000
Wallen mm-hmm but it's on its side so

1001
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:43,920
it's either a platform or was a wall

1002
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:46,980
that fell over the general theory is

1003
00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:51,930
it's a ancient dock or something and

1004
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:55,830
that's why people some extent do believe

1005
00:41:59,780 --> 00:41:57,770
in edited cases Atlantis the super

1006
00:42:01,160 --> 00:41:59,790
civilization out there is that he had

1007
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:01,170
said that they're gonna find something

1008
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,330
around Bimini one year and so J Manson

1009
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,160
Valentine was one who dives and then

1010
00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:10,800
found too many stones so people say see

1011
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:13,830
that's the covalent yeah it's a little

1012
00:42:20,060 --> 00:42:16,920
off but you could twist the pieces to

1013
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:20,070
make them fit another interesting aspect

1014
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:22,950
to the ruins there at Bimini the Bimini

1015
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:25,470
area is that they are located or they're

1016
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:28,110
actually on the perry reis map which is

1017
00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:29,100
something we've talked about with a

1018
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:31,320
previous guest which is an old ancient

1019
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:33,450
map and it appears like there's

1020
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:34,950
something there but it's yet it's not

1021
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:38,370
underwater on the map no i actually

1022
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:40,050
discovered that i had a big article on

1023
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:42,270
that a long long time ago and then

1024
00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:45,210
graham hancock picked up on that too and

1025
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:46,950
he had it in one of his books underworld

1026
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,250
I think mmm-hmm but I have I think that

1027
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:53,520
page is still up on my website here but

1028
00:42:59,090 --> 00:42:55,800
I have so many pages you'd have to dig

1029
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,100
through there but you will see it on the

1030
00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:01,440
piri Reis which I have a blow-up section

1031
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:05,960
and it is in a map on the Bahamas

1032
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:08,310
what Island they're trying to convey but

1033
00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:10,890
it is on land if it's Bimini or not or

1034
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:13,260
some other place it you know ancient

1035
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,210
cartographers did mark a significant you

1036
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:19,920
know to mark an area did use something

1037
00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:22,350
significant that was unique to it and so

1038
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:24,120
obviously this cartographer was told

1039
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,390
interesting but I knew about it yeah

1040
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:34,560
that's very cool I love that kind of

1041
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:36,750
stuff and another theory that gets

1042
00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:38,850
tossed around we kind of alluded to it

1043
00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:41,550
earlier this is mainly in paranormal a

1044
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:43,260
conspiracy circles but they talk about

1045
00:43:46,279 --> 00:43:45,690
that time warp phenomenon or you know a

1046
00:43:48,259 --> 00:43:46,289
multi do

1047
00:43:50,029 --> 00:43:48,269
mention important there does is there

1048
00:43:59,059 --> 00:43:50,039
any kind of science that could support

1049
00:44:00,859 --> 00:43:59,069
that type of theory there's well time is

1050
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:00,869
you know if you're going to go by it

1051
00:44:08,299 --> 00:44:04,880
strictly by Einsteins that a heavy mass

1052
00:44:11,059 --> 00:44:08,309
will Bend space in their with time

1053
00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:11,069
according to his theory that's based on

1054
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:12,839
you know atomic clocks at orbital

1055
00:44:20,749 --> 00:44:18,209
Heights and at sea surface will record

1056
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:20,759
time slightly differently very minor but

1057
00:44:25,009 --> 00:44:23,249
it's it's moving slower mmm-hmm

1058
00:44:28,729 --> 00:44:25,019
well we're recording it slower it's not

1059
00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:28,739
moving slower it's at the closer to the

1060
00:44:34,909 --> 00:44:31,859
center of gravity well if you can bend

1061
00:44:36,949 --> 00:44:34,919
space by another means other than a

1062
00:44:39,799 --> 00:44:36,959
massive object if you can bend space by

1063
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:39,809
electromagnetic wavelengths that are

1064
00:44:47,709 --> 00:44:42,689
obviously within space or through us all

1065
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:47,719
they're everywhere could you bend time

1066
00:44:55,759 --> 00:44:50,689
could you slow it we know how to slow it

1067
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:55,769
just by bending space so excuse me that

1068
00:44:59,299 --> 00:44:57,390
would be the closest you can come is

1069
00:45:02,390 --> 00:44:59,309
that what the electromagnetic phenomenon

1070
00:45:05,209 --> 00:45:02,400
over the triangle obviously it would

1071
00:45:09,469 --> 00:45:05,219
need the C doesn't happen over land

1072
00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:09,479
mmm-hmm so I would if the effects are

1073
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:14,819
right could something some vortex a bend

1074
00:45:21,409 --> 00:45:19,049
space in project magnet dr. Robert Smith

1075
00:45:24,229 --> 00:45:21,419
or will Bert's I don't know if he ever

1076
00:45:27,259 --> 00:45:24,239
earned his PhD but anyway he was head of

1077
00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:27,269
project magnetic Canada in the 1950s he

1078
00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:29,339
found these areas much more common in

1079
00:45:33,259 --> 00:45:30,599
the tropics he called them areas of

1080
00:45:34,729 --> 00:45:33,269
reduced binding they were diameter

1081
00:45:37,609 --> 00:45:34,739
circular diameter they could get a

1082
00:45:39,439 --> 00:45:37,619
thousand feet in diameter and they came

1083
00:45:43,969 --> 00:45:39,449
and went and so these areas of reduced

1084
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:43,979
binding became well known within the

1085
00:45:50,659 --> 00:45:48,900
literature in the 1950s and we're

1086
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:50,669
discussed in relationship to a triangle

1087
00:45:55,339 --> 00:45:52,049
since they're more common in the tropics

1088
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:55,349
and he thought that if an aircraft at

1089
00:46:00,460 --> 00:45:58,140
high speed hit one of these he would

1090
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:00,470
disintegrate he said they come and go

1091
00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:03,050
well later research indicates that these

1092
00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:05,240
could be magnetic 40 says that's been

1093
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:07,180
into existence temporarily due to

1094
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:11,450
figures in the Earth's rotation so if

1095
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:13,970
you have an invisible magnetic vortex

1096
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:17,810
out there if you have a solar storm or

1097
00:46:23,230 --> 00:46:19,609
something

1098
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:23,240
the vortex could attract all the charged

1099
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:25,430
particles this would be an invisible

1100
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:28,310
matrix spinning out there you cannot see

1101
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:30,290
what would happen if an aircraft first

1102
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:33,220
ship did come into proximity of that

1103
00:46:38,890 --> 00:46:36,170
remember charged particles after a solar

1104
00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:38,900
storm will detect the magnetic lines of

1105
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:41,480
force mm-hmm and our Earth's magnetic

1106
00:46:45,550 --> 00:46:43,849
field when there are clouds there you'll

1107
00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:45,560
see they get charged and the clouds will

1108
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,270
begin to spin around the magnetic field

1109
00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:48,800
lines of force they look like a

1110
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,230
corkscrew all right of the picture on

1111
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:53,359
the my website about that mm-hmm

1112
00:46:58,450 --> 00:46:55,900
and so now if you're thinking about this

1113
00:47:00,839 --> 00:46:58,460
basically perpendicular to the earth

1114
00:47:04,359 --> 00:47:00,849
it's magnetic vortex what will happen

1115
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:04,369
out there if it's charged after a solar

1116
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:07,640
storm I can't tell you what but you know

1117
00:47:12,250 --> 00:47:09,220
it's not something I would like to

1118
00:47:13,329 --> 00:47:12,260
encounter because in this dish you know

1119
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:13,339
you're talking about an invisible

1120
00:47:18,849 --> 00:47:16,460
cyclone but a magnetic electromagnetic

1121
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:18,859
cyclone and there are pilots and ship

1122
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:21,410
masters who have you know at night at

1123
00:47:25,390 --> 00:47:23,210
sea you can't see a waterspout

1124
00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:25,400
you can begin to hear it in an aircraft

1125
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:27,470
you won't so what happens if you fly

1126
00:47:32,170 --> 00:47:28,400
into one of these where you're going to

1127
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:32,180
be disintegrated right away Wow oh but

1128
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:33,770
what happens if you fly into one of

1129
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:36,800
these these forty PSA's these magnetic

1130
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:40,190
vortices or even within proximity to it

1131
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:41,930
is that what explains the electronic fog

1132
00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:44,230
is that what explains all the reports of

1133
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:47,390
compass malfunction could be a just

1134
00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:50,930
being near one by common in the Bahamas

1135
00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:52,790
you know I talked to enough people out

1136
00:47:58,569 --> 00:47:55,790
there and they say the only reason why

1137
00:48:00,099 --> 00:47:58,579
it doesn't get more attention is that

1138
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,109
all these old hands in the Bahamas are

1139
00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:02,000
used to point of sight navigating they

1140
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:04,700
know the islands of the peninsula's and

1141
00:48:07,809 --> 00:48:06,319
they seldom look at their compass but

1142
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:07,819
when they do sometimes it's pointing in

1143
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:10,160
the wrong direction and they joke look

1144
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:12,830
the Bermuda Triangle

1145
00:48:17,050 --> 00:48:15,470
yeah that's that's trippy how weird

1146
00:48:19,810 --> 00:48:17,060
would it be how wild would it be to

1147
00:48:22,510 --> 00:48:19,820
learn that some of these crafts were

1148
00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:22,520
going through some type of time portal

1149
00:48:28,090 --> 00:48:25,670
and we're popping out and other ages

1150
00:48:31,150 --> 00:48:28,100
maybe you know thousands of years ago

1151
00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:31,160
maybe the the high-tech UFOs that people

1152
00:48:34,750 --> 00:48:33,140
see or crafts that have gotten stuck in

1153
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:34,760
the Triangle in the future that have

1154
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:36,110
popped out in our time

1155
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:38,300
that's some crazy speculation but that'd

1156
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:41,720
be pretty wild they'd like to see ERISA

1157
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:44,930
better wormholes and all sorts of things

1158
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:48,650
I remember I had agreed with ancient

1159
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:51,920
aliens why the History Channel has that

1160
00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:55,090
show I don't know it asked me to explain

1161
00:48:59,740 --> 00:48:57,830
what the theory is that the aliens are

1162
00:49:01,330 --> 00:48:59,750
based on Earth and I said well I can

1163
00:49:04,540 --> 00:49:01,340
explain it you know how it's based in

1164
00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:04,550
the triangle how Yvan Sanderson made

1165
00:49:09,340 --> 00:49:06,500
that very popular and J Manson Valentine

1166
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:09,350
believed that and Edgar Cayce and all

1167
00:49:13,630 --> 00:49:11,500
these these guys said so I'll explain it

1168
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:13,640
and sure enough they made it sound like

1169
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:17,440
I was endorsing it hmm and I don't

1170
00:49:23,050 --> 00:49:20,090
certainly I've investigated UFOs you

1171
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,060
cannot ignore them if you have such

1172
00:49:30,910 --> 00:49:26,240
references in an accident report I'm not

1173
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:30,920
shy about investigating anything but the

1174
00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:35,090
whole theories that evolved about UFOs

1175
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,540
being based in the triangle well I have

1176
00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:40,640
one accident report where it's a weird

1177
00:49:45,130 --> 00:49:43,160
object is alluded to I do know of

1178
00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:45,140
incidents where there are lines on the

1179
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:47,780
shallow banks because when an anchor was

1180
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:49,880
drugged but it's not an anchor there's

1181
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:51,310
of something at high speed underwater

1182
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:54,410
went over it for a long time and they go

1183
00:49:59,880 --> 00:49:56,180
over islands and then start on the other

1184
00:50:02,560 --> 00:49:59,890
side again oh wow but the data disclosed

1185
00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:02,570
had you come aside from lights and

1186
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:04,660
reports that people make of these

1187
00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:07,850
strange lights or even what they think

1188
00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:09,470
is a craft coming and going from the

1189
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:12,620
water it was all subjective

1190
00:50:18,310 --> 00:50:14,330
except for that in one accident report

1191
00:50:20,110 --> 00:50:18,320
now probably the most far-out thing I've

1192
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:20,120
heard about that area and it's probably

1193
00:50:24,910 --> 00:50:21,830
a hoax but I got to ask you about it is

1194
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:24,920
the story of dr. Ray Brown where he said

1195
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,730
in the 1970s he was scooped

1196
00:50:31,339 --> 00:50:28,800
diving and he went inside of a sunken

1197
00:50:33,260 --> 00:50:31,349
glass like pyramid and he took some

1198
00:50:35,450 --> 00:50:33,270
crystal out of it and then five years

1199
00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:35,460
later he started showing this crystal at

1200
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:39,630
different conferences sounds way out

1201
00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:40,950
there I mean have you heard of this

1202
00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:46,320
story no actually I thought he was the

1203
00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:48,300
one there was someone out there who saw

1204
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:50,280
a bigfoot of a deep i remember that one

1205
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,500
what's that story i got one channel lost

1206
00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:55,680
looking for that looking for a guinea

1207
00:51:02,060 --> 00:50:59,690
hannover Gabriel Figueroa got all upset

1208
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:02,070
when he was telling the story about the

1209
00:51:04,839 --> 00:51:03,750
Amazon and what lives there and he was

1210
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:04,849
telling orson welles

1211
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:08,609
back in the 1940s that there was such a

1212
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:11,849
creature that lived in the Amazon so it

1213
00:51:21,859 --> 00:51:15,440
was kind of like an amphibious walking

1214
00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:21,869
man and William åland was one of course

1215
00:51:24,970 --> 00:51:23,430
and Welles mercury theater people he

1216
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:24,980
played the reporter in Citizen Kane

1217
00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:27,960
through familiar with classic movies yes

1218
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:29,880
well William along turned to production

1219
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:32,130
in the 1950s and he was so fascinated by

1220
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:34,170
Gabriel Figueroa who was a well-known

1221
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,530
director of photography and and Gabriel

1222
00:51:40,339 --> 00:51:39,119
Figueroa had gotten so adamant when

1223
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:40,349
Orson Welles challenged in that this

1224
00:51:46,220 --> 00:51:43,050
could not be true so William Allen

1225
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:46,230
decided to turn this into a movie and he

1226
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:47,520
is the producer of Creature from the

1227
00:51:52,550 --> 00:51:49,010
Black Lagoon ah

1228
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:52,560
and so that is supposedly it does come

1229
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:55,290
from Gabriel Figueroa insisting

1230
00:51:59,780 --> 00:51:56,880
adamantly that such a creature was

1231
00:52:02,240 --> 00:51:59,790
reported in the Amazon and there's a few

1232
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:02,250
people I've heard tell one got in a book

1233
00:52:07,099 --> 00:52:04,710
somewhere about seeing such a thing

1234
00:52:09,950 --> 00:52:07,109
called Bigfoot of the deep where you

1235
00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:09,960
have an amphibian that is more or less a

1236
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:13,470
turtle's type of back hind legs and kind

1237
00:52:18,260 --> 00:52:16,680
of you know Bigfoot face strange and

1238
00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:18,270
once in a while they can come up on the

1239
00:52:24,109 --> 00:52:21,060
land and the footprints in the Bahamas

1240
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:24,119
or wherever that's fascinating but I

1241
00:52:26,359 --> 00:52:24,810
doubt it

1242
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:26,369
I know but that's not a career that's

1243
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,380
he's the one I thought that it's all

1244
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:30,319
that I didn't know about the crystal oh

1245
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:34,500
this was a famous swimmer I thought it

1246
00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:37,410
was Ray Brown does not strike there's

1247
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:40,200
another dr. Brown or doctor I forget who

1248
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:42,690
it is that saw the glowing column off

1249
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:45,150
Bimini is that same one I don't know

1250
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:47,490
what's that story that sounds familiar

1251
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:49,740
to me found a saw a glowing column

1252
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:52,950
underwater it's in dr. zinc's book the

1253
00:52:59,569 --> 00:52:56,460
stones of Atlantis 1957 I can't tell you

1254
00:53:02,780 --> 00:52:59,579
much except I've asked some divers to go

1255
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:02,790
looking and I've seen a picture from

1256
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,470
that area that looks like something that

1257
00:53:06,740 --> 00:53:06,240
fell over but there's no column that

1258
00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:06,750
they know of

1259
00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:08,790
but in the zinc's book you can see the

1260
00:53:15,380 --> 00:53:13,079
picture looks like it's glowing and the

1261
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,390
diver who discovered William Bell that

1262
00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:17,520
was his name so that's not brown William

1263
00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:21,270
Bell was getting bloody noses from being

1264
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:22,920
around this metal column he could not

1265
00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:26,130
explain by implication of course it was

1266
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:29,880
part of Atlantis you'll encounter an

1267
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:31,319
awful lot of odd claims out there

1268
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,910
there's people who do some really weird

1269
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:35,280
things with quartz crystals while

1270
00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:36,930
they're cruising over the Bimini stones

1271
00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:40,560
and very odd things happen odd voodoo

1272
00:53:46,059 --> 00:53:43,160
things happen to Luna sacrifices rituals

1273
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:46,069
from the people in the Bermuda area oh

1274
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:48,270
yeah and then the Bermuda Triangle yeah

1275
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:49,260
there's a lot of loot in there

1276
00:53:59,180 --> 00:53:53,250
Wow very odd things ritual on ships

1277
00:54:03,349 --> 00:53:59,190
murder strangeness there is and there's

1278
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:03,359
then you have very unusual incidents

1279
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:05,130
where people think well you know it's so

1280
00:54:09,980 --> 00:54:06,810
shallow and crystal clear the water I'm

1281
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:09,990
going to go out in a little a 15 20 foot

1282
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:12,660
boat can just go fish where they go out

1283
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:14,730
in their kayaks and they don't

1284
00:54:20,359 --> 00:54:18,329
understand that barracudas can use the

1285
00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:20,369
shallow bottom to push off with and

1286
00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:21,300
they'll jump in the boat and they'll

1287
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:23,880
grab you and pull you in oh my god oh

1288
00:54:30,050 --> 00:54:27,569
yeah talk about evolution there's a

1289
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:30,060
number of derelict kayaks or small out

1290
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:33,000
boards and you can pretty much guess

1291
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:36,569
that barracudas or something not them I

1292
00:54:41,059 --> 00:54:38,670
know of a case in 2010 in which two

1293
00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:41,069
people wear a double kayak and the

1294
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:43,020
Barracuda saw her she was the girl was

1295
00:54:47,099 --> 00:54:46,950
in the back jumped in jumped at her bit

1296
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:47,109
her

1297
00:54:51,779 --> 00:54:50,319
the chest punctured a lung then jumped

1298
00:54:54,269 --> 00:54:51,789
back in the water and she freaked out

1299
00:54:56,249 --> 00:54:54,279
and fortunately she was with a guy and

1300
00:54:58,380 --> 00:54:56,259
he could call medevac and they could

1301
00:54:59,519 --> 00:54:58,390
save her had she been on her own the

1302
00:55:02,190 --> 00:54:59,529
Barracuda would have come back around

1303
00:55:05,249 --> 00:55:02,200
and drug her under and have been a

1304
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:05,259
derelict kayak oh my god yeah I was

1305
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:07,150
thinking about like considering the

1306
00:55:10,769 --> 00:55:08,680
water is so shallow there I was thinking

1307
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,779
to myself you know there's a place I

1308
00:55:15,329 --> 00:55:12,640
should take a vacation go check out the

1309
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:15,339
Bimini Road now I'm not so sure that's a

1310
00:55:18,989 --> 00:55:17,410
good idea well deep enough there you

1311
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:18,999
don't have to worry I think unless they

1312
00:55:25,489 --> 00:55:21,249
really get some speed and jump up in the

1313
00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:25,499
boat but a Coast Guard Petty Officer

1314
00:55:32,819 --> 00:55:28,749
Powell was his last name I think he was

1315
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:32,829
off Andros Island with his outboard in

1316
00:55:38,339 --> 00:55:35,049
seven feet of water that crystal-clear

1317
00:55:40,049 --> 00:55:38,349
beautiful water of the Andros Island and

1318
00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:40,059
he vanished they went out there his boat

1319
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:43,660
was still anchored his fishing line over

1320
00:55:48,739 --> 00:55:46,210
the and you know yeah no sign of it is

1321
00:55:51,059 --> 00:55:48,749
no sign of a disturbance no sign that

1322
00:55:54,029 --> 00:55:51,069
heavy powerboat had cut up sand

1323
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:54,039
underneath and they never found trace of

1324
00:55:56,849 --> 00:55:54,400
him

1325
00:55:58,769 --> 00:55:56,859
creepy now there are also some

1326
00:56:00,569 --> 00:55:58,779
researchers to talk about this idea that

1327
00:56:02,460 --> 00:56:00,579
if you map out some of the ancient

1328
00:56:04,349 --> 00:56:02,470
world's historic sites like Stonehenge

1329
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:04,359
and the Great Pyramids and some people

1330
00:56:07,769 --> 00:56:05,980
also include the Bermuda Triangle in

1331
00:56:09,870 --> 00:56:07,779
this that you'll find these sites on

1332
00:56:12,539 --> 00:56:09,880
some type of ley lines or nodes of

1333
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,549
electromagnetic energy that may be in

1334
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:14,799
the ancient past we were more aware of

1335
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:16,569
or we harnessed this type of natural

1336
00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:18,430
energy but we've lost touch with it a

1337
00:56:20,999 --> 00:56:20,140
lot of speculation in that area do you

1338
00:56:26,729 --> 00:56:21,009
have any thoughts on that

1339
00:56:28,529 --> 00:56:26,739
no really don't you know to me it's I

1340
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,539
was I've read about it but it's not

1341
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:31,359
something I retain as much because

1342
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:33,569
people that write about it

1343
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:35,470
associated with some very erroneous

1344
00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:36,910
facts in the Triangle about where the

1345
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:38,849
electromagnetic incidents really occur

1346
00:56:44,299 --> 00:56:42,160
and concentrated in any rate it's me the

1347
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:44,309
triangle is the you know this is the

1348
00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:47,339
flipper the real-life adventure

1349
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:50,380
adventure and mystery is a very exotic

1350
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:53,200
location it's not it's not a paranormal

1351
00:56:58,410 --> 00:56:56,799
pursuit for me sir and I mean I don't

1352
00:57:00,100 --> 00:56:58,420
pass judgment on people for believing

1353
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:00,110
it's paranormal but it's

1354
00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:03,710
not not what I do yeah the real mystery

1355
00:57:07,330 --> 00:57:05,480
the facts are strange enough that you

1356
00:57:08,380 --> 00:57:07,340
really don't have to add a whole lot of

1357
00:57:10,690 --> 00:57:08,390
that other stuff to it

1358
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:10,700
but another thing I was going to ask you

1359
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:12,050
about it as I've always heard the

1360
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:13,430
Bermuda Triangle holds some type of

1361
00:57:18,670 --> 00:57:16,010
religious significance to Muslims and

1362
00:57:22,270 --> 00:57:18,680
Hindus and their culture yeah

1363
00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:22,280
they do yes to some to some Muslims yes

1364
00:57:29,350 --> 00:57:24,550
I got in trouble with him did you

1365
00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:29,360
because their 12th Imam some of them is

1366
00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:31,420
supposed to according to their prophecy

1367
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:34,670
just to rise on a throne from the

1368
00:57:41,290 --> 00:57:37,280
crystal the Sapphire see and they say

1369
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:41,300
that's Bonita and they say because I'm

1370
00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:46,400
regarded as the world expert that I'm

1371
00:57:51,730 --> 00:57:49,420
obliged to tell them what to do yes

1372
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:51,740
you're the Savior I giving them more

1373
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:55,010
information I had had very odd

1374
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:57,650
communication about it after all the big

1375
00:58:03,370 --> 00:58:01,280
terrorist insurgent and 13c in 2001 and

1376
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:03,380
watch a couple really got out of it with

1377
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:04,850
me that I was to help them get there

1378
00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:06,170
because they couldn't get in the US

1379
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:06,740
anymore

1380
00:58:14,290 --> 00:58:10,970
oh and one of them was a Saudi the other

1381
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:14,300
was a Pakistani merchant mariner and one

1382
00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:16,490
had me in his dreams that he was to

1383
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:20,630
contact a man whose name means shank of

1384
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:23,530
beef well that's not me but to contact

1385
00:58:27,370 --> 00:58:25,970
another man whose name means God of

1386
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:27,380
beginnings and that's what my name

1387
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:30,530
actually means in Italian and so they

1388
00:58:36,970 --> 00:58:32,570
said yeah I was in their dreams I had to

1389
00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:36,980
do this I had to help them you know in

1390
00:58:41,770 --> 00:58:39,230
the United States and now that's far out

1391
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:41,780
it is interesting though that cultures

1392
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:44,030
that are geographically not that close

1393
00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:45,410
to the Bermuda Triangle would have

1394
00:58:50,830 --> 00:58:48,080
legends of something coming from that

1395
00:58:53,110 --> 00:58:50,840
area and then in modern times we find

1396
00:58:54,550 --> 00:58:53,120
out that it is a strange anomalous area

1397
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:54,560
that that's kind of a strange

1398
00:59:01,380 --> 00:58:57,530
correlation you can probably look on

1399
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:01,390
YouTube and find very serious

1400
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:03,410
dissertations from some within this

1401
00:59:07,420 --> 00:59:06,050
Muslim section on the significance of

1402
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,430
the Bermuda Triangle one of them was a

1403
00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:09,920
doctor of something rather and he wanted

1404
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:11,390
me to look at it to see if it was fine

1405
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:12,130
and

1406
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:22,000
he he had a very serious dissertation on

1407
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:25,450
the significance of Bermuda and certain

1408
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:27,790
things in the 'quran and that the

1409
00:59:34,890 --> 00:59:30,670
Bermuda Triangle may be a blueprint to

1410
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:34,900
this Austen's plea the last Imam very

1411
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:38,230
cool so I understand how the

1412
00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:41,110
electromagnetic fog could confuse pilots

1413
00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:43,870
and cause them to crash but man the fact

1414
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:46,150
that we have no wreckage that's so damn

1415
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:49,390
strange man no turtle graft no little

1416
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:52,630
islands of I there they're called the

1417
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,210
eye about fifty five miles east of

1418
01:00:00,420 --> 00:59:57,760
Bimini and which there where the Bahama

1419
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:00,430
banks which is nothing but a sandy

1420
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:03,130
underwater desert 20 feet down mm-hmm

1421
01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:05,710
you can come across this marled area

1422
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:08,920
from the sky and they went down there to

1423
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:10,810
have a look at it people I know and of

1424
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:12,970
course it's an airplane wreckage and

1425
01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:14,470
that's why the turtle grass grows down

1426
01:00:21,330 --> 01:00:17,350
there there's pictures on the website

1427
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:21,340
and I think little doctor little was one

1428
01:00:26,010 --> 01:00:23,830
who went down there in Bimini brown and

1429
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:26,020
you know sure enough whenever I wasn't

1430
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:27,520
like I told you whenever the old hands

1431
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:30,850
see one of these marled locations that

1432
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:32,670
they'll call the eye or the whatever

1433
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:34,870
they know there's wreckage there that

1434
01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:36,520
turtle grass taken up to ten years and

1435
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:39,670
it will grow around this and so they go

1436
01:00:44,550 --> 01:00:42,220
and looks and then this aircraft can't

1437
01:00:46,140 --> 01:00:44,560
be identified right now I've looked at

1438
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:46,150
the propeller I've been on TV looking at

1439
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:48,250
the propeller and everything but until

1440
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:50,470
when it came out of the warehouse and

1441
01:00:54,570 --> 01:00:52,000
everything but can't really find out who

1442
01:00:56,610 --> 01:00:54,580
had this aircraft but that is an example

1443
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:56,620
of an aircraft that is wrecked now all

1444
01:01:01,530 --> 01:00:58,690
these that vanished granted they don't

1445
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:01,540
leave wreckage immediately for the

1446
01:01:06,570 --> 01:01:04,210
searchers to find but within years there

1447
01:01:09,090 --> 01:01:06,580
should be these curious eyes these moral

1448
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:09,100
areas appearing on the plush sands

1449
01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:11,710
Oklahoma banks but they never have not

1450
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:14,020
one ship at one aircraft that has

1451
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,090
disappeared has ever been found through

1452
01:01:20,850 --> 01:01:18,160
divers just curiously finding a new

1453
01:01:23,730 --> 01:01:20,860
little oasis of turtle grass on the

1454
01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:23,740
bottom of the otherwise previously just

1455
01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:25,600
desert II

1456
01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:28,600
bottom of the Bahamas weird so are there

1457
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,120
any prevailing theories that you put out

1458
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:34,000
to explain where the crafts have been

1459
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:35,350
disappearing or are you just leaving it

1460
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,350
up to mystery oh I believe the

1461
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:40,240
electronic fog that electromagnetic

1462
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:43,240
phenomenon is quite intimate with the

1463
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:45,490
whole thing with all that I documented

1464
01:01:49,530 --> 01:01:46,960
with all these different disappearances

1465
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,540
I assure you it's multifactorial not all

1466
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:51,040
of these vanished for the same reason

1467
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:54,130
some you know are just pilot didn't know

1468
01:01:58,310 --> 01:01:54,960
what he was doing

1469
01:02:01,350 --> 01:01:58,320
piracy certainly can be involved but

1470
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:01,360
even out of what 300 and some odd cases

1471
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:03,910
if only 30 or 40 of these are truly

1472
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:05,920
mysterious from the electronic fog that

1473
01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:08,200
is you have a phenomenon that has to be

1474
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:10,390
looked into much more closely mmm-hmm

1475
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:12,730
and it does exist I mean there's no

1476
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,130
question that does exist there are some

1477
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:17,680
meteorologists who now accept it David

1478
01:02:21,570 --> 01:02:19,810
Paris is one he's been trying to figure

1479
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:21,580
it out he's worked with Bruce Gernon on

1480
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:24,130
it and so I do believe that what we

1481
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:26,650
consider to be the ultimate enigma of

1482
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:28,240
the triangle the electromagnetic

1483
01:02:32,310 --> 01:02:30,610
phenomenon the strange fog seeing

1484
01:02:34,290 --> 01:02:32,320
spinning compasses creates quite

1485
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:34,300
associated that the electronic fog

1486
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:36,610
points to something much deeper

1487
01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:38,950
underlying in the ocean in the

1488
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:40,750
atmosphere there and that ultimately

1489
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:43,410
solving that will tell us what the

1490
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:45,940
enigma of the triangle really is 100

1491
01:02:50,310 --> 01:02:47,620
lies that all people should have to

1492
01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:50,320
understand it is still a great adventure

1493
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:53,860
it's not something to be dismissed or to

1494
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:56,410
be erased by too much theorizing do

1495
01:03:01,410 --> 01:02:58,960
stick with the basic information that

1496
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:01,420
more aircraft and ships do vanish and be

1497
01:03:06,380 --> 01:03:03,130
curious enough to look as to why don't

1498
01:03:09,570 --> 01:03:06,390
just dismiss it or fantasize about it

1499
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,580
great advice well man that does about do

1500
01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:11,680
it the world is a weird place there's so

1501
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:13,420
much we still don't know and I'm glad

1502
01:03:15,870 --> 01:03:14,800
people like you are out there trying to

1503
01:03:17,490 --> 01:03:15,880
get to the bottom of some of this

1504
01:03:19,260 --> 01:03:17,500
weirdness would you like to tell the

1505
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:19,270
people about any of your other work or

1506
01:03:27,690 --> 01:03:20,650
give them your website before I let you

1507
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:27,700
go they can go to WWE triangle org to

1508
01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:29,890
see all that I do I will be spinning all

1509
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:31,960
this other stuff off into a separate

1510
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:35,200
website because I look for all sorts of

1511
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:36,400
things I was called the real-life

1512
01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:38,740
Kolchak because I investigate so much

1513
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:39,550
different

1514
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:42,250
so you can check out my research and

1515
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:44,410
find real Mount Sinai or into true-crime

1516
01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:48,720
Jack the Ripper the e AR Zodiac killer

1517
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:51,640
Bigfoot everything but all that will

1518
01:03:55,220 --> 01:03:53,290
soon be moved to a whole other website

1519
01:03:57,839 --> 01:03:55,230
so that the triangle site which is huge

1520
01:03:59,880 --> 01:03:57,849
just remains on its own with flight 19

1521
01:04:02,070 --> 01:03:59,890
the triangle and the Cyclops

1522
01:04:04,050 --> 01:04:02,080
disappearance very cool

1523
01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:04,060
awesome man well it has been great

1524
01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:05,800
talking to you thanks so much for being

1525
01:04:08,849 --> 01:04:07,960
here and take care of yourself hopefully

1526
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:08,859
we'll get to the bottom of things

1527
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:10,690
eventually thank you very much

1528
01:04:15,690 --> 01:04:13,660
there we have a Gian quasar cool guy

1529
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:15,700
extraordinaire thanks for listening

1530
01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:17,410
people another Money bomb starts today

1531
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:18,670
and hopefully this one won't be a

1532
01:04:22,140 --> 01:04:20,109
disappointment because I know the

1533
01:04:24,450 --> 01:04:22,150
amazing things I have been working on

1534
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:24,460
for the hundredth episode special won't

1535
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:27,609
be I can't thank everyone enough and the

1536
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:29,260
people at vapor genie for taking care of

1537
01:04:33,390 --> 01:04:31,119
me one more time I want to mention that

1538
01:04:35,609 --> 01:04:33,400
if you are a redditor people at the

1539
01:04:38,339 --> 01:04:35,619
subreddit hire said Chet's I'm trying to

1540
01:04:39,089 --> 01:04:38,349
make it pop I love reddit anyway see you